Thank you again, this is so interesting!!!
Muddy Waters
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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit
by Diogenesister inex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
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Bye, Bye Love
by compound complex inheavy, heavy upon my failing heart weighs .
your aching need for my full and loving devotion.. i spend myself willingly on your behalf because,.
truly, your needs and wishes outstrip my own.. if i were young and wiry man, for you .
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Muddy Waters
:(
beautiful though so sad.... I have to believe that love endures somehow, written in our hearts, living in our very cells....
(I have been very very ill lately, and thoughts of my own mortality are very much with me and some days it is easier to contemplate than other days.... Your post has brought me to tears, because we really do think about 'those we leave behind'.... it really does all come down to the PEOPLE in our lives, the people we love and cherish, and the legacy we leave with them, how they think of us in their hearts.... )
May you, and they, be blessed.... (I do not mean that word in a religious sense any more, but in the sense of having goodness and gratitude.... )
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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit
by Diogenesister inex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
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Muddy Waters
Darkspilver, THANK YOU so much for posting this. I do not use or go to the Reddit forum, so really appreciate your doing this. Very interesting stuff!!
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Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!
by TTWSYF ini wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.
take the 5 word phrase.
"i didn't eat your sandwich".
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Muddy Waters
Great points!!!! Love this.
I remember reading a site which criticized the New World Translation, and one scholar said something like: "... this [result] is what happens when you translate using a dictionary (versus having an understanding of the language)!" *
Hopefully I have the link somewhere with the scholar's name ..... he was very critical of the NWT. I loved his review, lol. Will post back if I find it.
Stupid WT, believing they have produced the best Bible ever.
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* But as your post makes perfectly clear, knowing the language is not enough. Context is so important!
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Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door
by usualusername1 inwhat is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.
mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.
scary...paul.
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Muddy Waters
It was my turn to take the door. It was winter and quite chilly. So there we were, two sisters, she a very "proper" sister, an elder's wife, one of those perfectly put-together people.
A man answers the door and I begin my presentation. I try to show him the magazine article, but need to remove my glove so I can turn the page. It gets rather difficult juggling all my stuff: gloves, bible, magazine, book bag... I drop my glove, and this sister quickly bends down to pick it up for me.
I thank her, then drop my other glove. I start to bob down to pick it up, thinking I'd spare her, but she beats me to it. (I'm thinking we must be starting to look like a comedy act.)
The man just stands there, waiting patiently.
The sister hands me my glove, and when I reach to take it, drop my magazine.
This sister yet again bobs down to pick up the magazine, and as she goes to hand it to me, the man reaches out for it, saying, "Why don't I just take that and make it easy for you!"
lol
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Wow... This comment from Talesin on page 2 describes, and explains, for me, how, (in the book "1984"), Winston comes to LOVE BIG BROTHER."
talesin2 years ago
The deep things of Jehovah(TM) denote the 'dark side' of da troof. Once you submit to the Slave's wisdom, and immerse yourself in pursuing Noo Lite, you will know the feeling of joining the hive. No longer will you be required to think, or make those nasty "decisions" for yourself! Your rational self will live in the shadows, and only the LIGHT of JAH! (made that one up) will give you joy and peace.
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Cart witnessing in the quietest in my suburb.
by fulltimestudent ini walked to the station yesterday to meet a friend, and on the way, in what must be the quietest street in the entire suburb, were two j.witnesses and their little cart, all set with a literature display.
i wondered what point there may have been to choose that location.
i felt like grabbing one of their bibles and reading matthew 5:15 to them:.
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Muddy Waters
Ha, so funny. I've yet to see a cart, so am actually looking forward to seeing one "in action," ha!
PunkofNice, I remember reading the word "lugubrious" while pre-studying for the Watchtower, and looking up the definition in the dictionary (you know, doing "serious research"!! LOL)
The word "lugubrious" even became a real conversation item in our Kingdom Hall, with elders and ministerial servants talking about it. It became well-used in conversations for a while following that Watchtower study article (from the 80's? 90's? The article was about funerals, re: "worldy" vs. JW...)
Anyway, I do thank the Watchtower Society for giving us that great word.
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What or Who is a Jehovah's Witness?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat or who is a jehovah's witness?.
a jehovah's witness is a person whose faith is centered in men (gb) not god or the bible and who must never voice any opinion on any doctrine contrary to that of the gb or risk discipline and possible disfellowship.. well....its a start.. vander .
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Muddy Waters
Sorry for sounding a bit crazy and disjointed there, haha... some of my text was erased when I was trying to fix a few things, then a whole block of other text disappeared, so there seems to be a technical problem coupled with some possible user fatigue, heh.
Night night, all.
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What or Who is a Jehovah's Witness?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat or who is a jehovah's witness?.
a jehovah's witness is a person whose faith is centered in men (gb) not god or the bible and who must never voice any opinion on any doctrine contrary to that of the gb or risk discipline and possible disfellowship.. well....its a start.. vander .
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Muddy Waters
Yes, perfect descriptions of JWs!
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A JW is a person who is dedicated to their G.O.D. -- their Guardians Of Doctrine, the Governing bODy --
- and who must thus follow *all* of their G.O.D's - these Governing bODy members' - directives,
(OR ELSE they will be considered apostate, going against the direction of Jehovah's holy spirit, thus rejecting "God's spirit-directed organization on earth today", i.e., "Jehovah's earthly organization".)- and to remain loyal to their God/G.O.D. - these seven Governing bODy members -- JWs must report some amount of time spent in "field service" (their 'ministry') every month in order to remain "members in good standing within the congregation",
(OR ELSE they will be considered "inactive", thus "spiritually weak", and quite possibly, or most likely, "bad association" ....)- JWs also have an EXTREME FEAR OF DEMONS and are actually very superstitious, in a weirdly opposite way that most superstitious people are superstitious...
lol... oh boy, I'm thinking of the most ridiculous things now.
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- JWs are people who WON'T THROW RICE or confetti at weddings,- nor TOAST you
- or say "BLESS YOU" after you sneeze...
...Oh, and guess what!
Yes, the Governing bODy - the Guardians Of Doctrine (G.O.D.) - will be REWARDED by becoming FELLOW-WORKERS (workers meaning LEADERS) IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS (whoever he is) ....!! CHRIST!
LOL...!
And what marvelous things will they do???What will they accomplish??
Why, they are going to kill everybody in a war called Armegeddon, but don’t worry, because it’s a totally righteous war (especially for JWs)and it will be a really great and wonderful blessing to mankind ('mankind' meaning only those JWs who are approved by God/G.O.D. to survive this terrible and great day —
YET EVEN THE MOST RIGHTEOUS, ZEALOUS, LOYAL JW may only "probably" survive,
because you never know, they might not be quite “righteous enough”…
Anyway, in this exciting battle:
people will urinate from fear
and their bowels will loosenand their ... eyeballs will rot in their sockets ...
something like that...blah dee blah ...
It’s going to be incredible FEAR and HORROR and DESTRUCTION --
but all OKAY because it's from GOD/G.O.D. remember, so yay!!
No worries -- all is okee-dokee!! — eventually, that is, because:
And all JWs have the wonderful:- PROSPECT OF CLEANING UP THE EARTH after all this devastation.
But no, really, it's OKAY!! Because it will be PARADISE! (yay! Aren't you feeling all the love and happiness???) -- as soon as all the BIRDS OF THE EARTH finish eating up all the dead people lying around everywhere...
oh gosh.
...This is what it means to be a Jehovah's Witness.
And this is only a glimpse into being a JW.... as we all *well know*!!
...Sorry to go morbid.
(Gee, who would ever think that a person could start getting MORBID when talking about what it means to be JW..??? Bwhahahahahaha!!!)
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Anyway, back to humor and laughter now.... whew....
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The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.
by The Fall Guy inthe manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.
the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.
note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.
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I used to wonder, at assemblies and such, why they would never address anything that "apostates" said.
After all, they spent plenty of time addressing all the wrongs of (apostate!) Christendom, the Catholic church, the political systems, the commercial systems, etc., but rarely mentioned anything about what these evil apostates say.
Or if they did, there was never context given and the matter was addressed quickly and gotten out of the way with the briefest brush of reassuring verbiage.
And Sir82, I noticed, too, that there was no distinction made between "negative" reports and "false reports" and unconfirmed and sensational.
These terms were all treated the same, all without distinction. Weird!!!
It's like they're talking to children....